BAAG is born

Today is Saturday, 16th of June 2007 and is the birthday of… (drum-roll please…)BAAG - Battle Against Any Guess.

This idea was sitting in my head for a while and finally materialized here. “Enough is enough” trigger was this Oracle-L thread followed by couple emails from Tanel Poder and David Kurtz. While replying to Tanel describing this idea, I carried on and imperceptibly for myself started this site.

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4 Responses to “BAAG is born”  

  1. 1 Ben

    Not guessing at all would imply there is always a fool-proof method to determine exactly what the problem is. But there’s no such thing thing, is there? You may for example, determine that a dictionary query is slow due to a FTS instead of doing index-lookups. But you wouldn’t know exactly why it’s doing that until you guess at a few possible causes, and try out a few solutions. Especially if it’s caused by a bug. It’s no different when searching Metalink for possible solutions, and guessing what you have found (and it’s recommended solution) may be the answer to your problem. Sometimes Metalink may provide a method for determining if it is the same problem, but many other times you just have to guess. I see where you are coming from, and while one should avoid wild guesses, making a educated guess is a valid method in problem solving.

  2. 2 Alex Gorbachev

    Thanks for your comment Ben.

    In this case, there are options to investigate that. Almost certainly it would be CBO estimating cost incorrectly or Oracle performing access to a fixed table ineffectively. Different techniques can be applied here — 10053 trace, hinting and comparing the costs, 10046 trace, etc.

    Searching Metalink and Google is a great idea but it might result in completely irrelevant fixes because people are looking for a ready to apply solution as if Google and Metalink can diagnose the issue instead of an analyst. Google/Metalink should rather provide more details to aid the research.

    Educated Guess? Often it’s not easy to distinguish educated guess from gut feeling or simply wild guess. Assumption is a good term and it must be verified before relying on it.

  3. 3 CrazyGuyOnABike

    “Imagine you are riding a bike with 100 km/h and in front of you is a blind summit”

    Actually, a condition known as “Death wobble” can kick in at around 80 kmph. I experienced moderate wobble at 50.9 mph descending PA St Rt 31 just east of the Laurel Highlands. So I can’t imagine riding at 100 kmph under any conditions on a bicycle, thanks.

    CrazyGuyOnABike

  4. 4 Alex Gorbachev

    You must be right and I should have said 42 mph. :) Anyway, welcome to the club!

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