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		<title>Comment on BAAG is born by Marcel Kratochvil</title>
		<link>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2007/06/baag-is-born/#comment-13290</link>
		<author>Marcel Kratochvil</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 03:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,

After just reading about BAAG for the first time and the motiviation behind it, I can agree with and understand the need for battling this.
And yet I am not convinced by the attack on guessing and the need to eliminate it.
The need (as put on your about page) to eliminate guesswork from the decision making process is to deny the basics for how the human thought process works.
The brain based on neural networks, does not use logic for processing information. To ultimately try and remove a core part of the human thinking patterns where we 
have to make constant assumptions all the time to avoid information overload is a natural thinking strategy. It also allows us to think outside the box and not become mindless automatons.
I would see a better solution is to not battle it, but to train people in the correct use of guessing versus logical deduction and when each method is best. The examples you provide highlight the need for educating people more on this, rather than battling against it. By alienating guessing, by making it appear bad you are deliberately driving home a point for a reason, which I can understand. After all, I have done this myself, and its a good tactic - only when used right.

When you move into the multimedia worldview and store it in the database, logic that we are used to disappears and there is an element of calculated guessing all the time.
For example, compare two photos and ask which is the better one? It cannot be logically calculated. And sometimes when it comes to performance tuning and problem resolving in a mission critical system that has time constraints, guesswork is crucial to quickly resolve it  (I will not give any Star Trek analogies here especially Movie #4, but will try and track down some Hitch Hiker Guide to the Galaxy ones). Though it is guesswork based on experience and knowledge.

I believe with the passion you have raised on this topic, it is worth discussing it further. I am now aware of this issue, which I wasn't before this morning began.

Marcel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>
<p>After just reading about BAAG for the first time and the motiviation behind it, I can agree with and understand the need for battling this.<br />
And yet I am not convinced by the attack on guessing and the need to eliminate it.<br />
The need (as put on your about page) to eliminate guesswork from the decision making process is to deny the basics for how the human thought process works.<br />
The brain based on neural networks, does not use logic for processing information. To ultimately try and remove a core part of the human thinking patterns where we<br />
have to make constant assumptions all the time to avoid information overload is a natural thinking strategy. It also allows us to think outside the box and not become mindless automatons.<br />
I would see a better solution is to not battle it, but to train people in the correct use of guessing versus logical deduction and when each method is best. The examples you provide highlight the need for educating people more on this, rather than battling against it. By alienating guessing, by making it appear bad you are deliberately driving home a point for a reason, which I can understand. After all, I have done this myself, and its a good tactic - only when used right.</p>
<p>When you move into the multimedia worldview and store it in the database, logic that we are used to disappears and there is an element of calculated guessing all the time.<br />
For example, compare two photos and ask which is the better one? It cannot be logically calculated. And sometimes when it comes to performance tuning and problem resolving in a mission critical system that has time constraints, guesswork is crucial to quickly resolve it  (I will not give any Star Trek analogies here especially Movie #4, but will try and track down some Hitch Hiker Guide to the Galaxy ones). Though it is guesswork based on experience and knowledge.</p>
<p>I believe with the passion you have raised on this topic, it is worth discussing it further. I am now aware of this issue, which I wasn&#8217;t before this morning began.</p>
<p>Marcel.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Avoiding Guesswork in Complex Environments by Alex Gorbachev</title>
		<link>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/03/avoiding-guesswork-in-complex-environments/#comment-10876</link>
		<author>Alex Gorbachev</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/03/avoiding-guesswork-in-complex-environments/#comment-10876</guid>
		<description>Good point. Thanks Aleksey.
The biggest difficulty I found is to motivate engineers to write docs AND keep them up to date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. Thanks Aleksey.<br />
The biggest difficulty I found is to motivate engineers to write docs AND keep them up to date.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Avoiding Guesswork in Complex Environments by Aleksey Tsalolikhin</title>
		<link>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/03/avoiding-guesswork-in-complex-environments/#comment-10874</link>
		<author>Aleksey Tsalolikhin</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/03/avoiding-guesswork-in-complex-environments/#comment-10874</guid>
		<description>Documentation is very important and under-used in today's IT shops.

To help remedy that, here's &lt;a href="http://lopsa.org/node/1829" rel="nofollow"&gt;my recent post on system administrator site documentation with docbook, and a few "intro to docbook" links that were helpful to me.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Documentation is very important and under-used in today&#8217;s IT shops.</p>
<p>To help remedy that, here&#8217;s <a href="http://lopsa.org/node/1829" rel="nofollow">my recent post on system administrator site documentation with docbook, and a few &#8220;intro to docbook&#8221; links that were helpful to me.</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on SQL Server Performance Diagnostic &#8212; Still Guessing? by mario broodbakker</title>
		<link>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/05/sql-server-performance-diagnostic-still-guessing/#comment-317</link>
		<author>mario broodbakker</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/05/sql-server-performance-diagnostic-still-guessing/#comment-317</guid>
		<description>My site is back..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My site is back..</p>
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		<title>Comment on SQL Server Performance Diagnostic &#8212; Still Guessing? by mario broodbakker</title>
		<link>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/05/sql-server-performance-diagnostic-still-guessing/#comment-304</link>
		<author>mario broodbakker</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/05/sql-server-performance-diagnostic-still-guessing/#comment-304</guid>
		<description>Hmmm, it looks like my website is hijacked..
Need to do some work here.

I upgrade the sql2005 stuff until a very recent release, something SP2'ish.
For, eh, legal/corporate(employer/business guest at MSFT) and so reasons I stopped this hacking work.

In SQLServer 2008 there is still no dmv (v$ for Oracleites) view per session or so.
But there is something really new and interesting that can present wait events: XEvents.
With XEvents you can trace every wait ( and a lot of other events) and get extra context information  when they happen.
I presented on this subject on Miracle's SQLServer Open World. An abstract for PASS2008
was rejected last week :-( Probably everybody in the SQLServer world already knows 
so much about XEvents and Wait event based profiling..

There is a simple-talk.com paper in the making...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, it looks like my website is hijacked..<br />
Need to do some work here.</p>
<p>I upgrade the sql2005 stuff until a very recent release, something SP2&#8242;ish.<br />
For, eh, legal/corporate(employer/business guest at MSFT) and so reasons I stopped this hacking work.</p>
<p>In SQLServer 2008 there is still no dmv (v$ for Oracleites) view per session or so.<br />
But there is something really new and interesting that can present wait events: XEvents.<br />
With XEvents you can trace every wait ( and a lot of other events) and get extra context information  when they happen.<br />
I presented on this subject on Miracle&#8217;s SQLServer Open World. An abstract for PASS2008<br />
was rejected last week <img src='http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> Probably everybody in the SQLServer world already knows<br />
so much about XEvents and Wait event based profiling..</p>
<p>There is a simple-talk.com paper in the making&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Statspack for PostgreSQL &#8212; Meet Pgstatspack by Alex Gorbachev</title>
		<link>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/05/the-statspack-for-postgresql-meet-pgstatspack/#comment-291</link>
		<author>Alex Gorbachev</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 19:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/05/the-statspack-for-postgresql-meet-pgstatspack/#comment-291</guid>
		<description>Thanks for info Frits.

&lt;a href="http://one-size-doesnt-fit-all.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Chris Muir&lt;/a&gt; described this kind of "free" very well &lt;a href="http://one-size-doesnt-fit-all.blogspot.com/2008/05/why-neither-apex-or-jdeveloper-are.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. It's resonates with PostgreSQL &#038; EnterpriseDB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for info Frits.</p>
<p><a href="http://one-size-doesnt-fit-all.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Chris Muir</a> described this kind of &#8220;free&#8221; very well <a href="http://one-size-doesnt-fit-all.blogspot.com/2008/05/why-neither-apex-or-jdeveloper-are.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. It&#8217;s resonates with PostgreSQL &#038; EnterpriseDB.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Statspack for PostgreSQL &#8212; Meet Pgstatspack by Frits Hoogland</title>
		<link>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/05/the-statspack-for-postgresql-meet-pgstatspack/#comment-290</link>
		<author>Frits Hoogland</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 19:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/05/the-statspack-for-postgresql-meet-pgstatspack/#comment-290</guid>
		<description>The postgresql with oracle compatibility (enterprise db, postgres plus advanced server) is reported to have some sort of wait interface. But it can't be downloaded for free, so I've never tried it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The postgresql with oracle compatibility (enterprise db, postgres plus advanced server) is reported to have some sort of wait interface. But it can&#8217;t be downloaded for free, so I&#8217;ve never tried it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SQL Server Performance Diagnostic &#8212; Still Guessing? by Gints Plivna</title>
		<link>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/05/sql-server-performance-diagnostic-still-guessing/#comment-280</link>
		<author>Gints Plivna</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 08:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/05/sql-server-performance-diagnostic-still-guessing/#comment-280</guid>
		<description>Two comments:
1. Some old content can be found in web archive here http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.sqlinternals.com
2. How about new SQL Server 2008? It can be downloaded as something like beta from MS site. It is interesting are there any improvements there regarding this subject?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two comments:<br />
1. Some old content can be found in web archive here <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/</a>*/www.sqlinternals.com<br />
2. How about new SQL Server 2008? It can be downloaded as something like beta from MS site. It is interesting are there any improvements there regarding this subject?</p>
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		<title>Comment on RTFM - stuff you never wanted to know about reading the manual! by Ken Naim</title>
		<link>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2007/07/rtfm-stuff-you-never-wanted-to-know-about-reading-the-manual/#comment-252</link>
		<author>Ken Naim</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2007/07/rtfm-stuff-you-never-wanted-to-know-about-reading-the-manual/#comment-252</guid>
		<description>I find the documentation to serve its purpose quite adequetly however i find the search engines lacking, especially when delaing with some oracle features that use very generic terms as names,  unforutently none come to mind at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the documentation to serve its purpose quite adequetly however i find the search engines lacking, especially when delaing with some oracle features that use very generic terms as names,  unforutently none come to mind at the moment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Avoiding Guesswork in Complex Environments by Narendra</title>
		<link>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/03/avoiding-guesswork-in-complex-environments/#comment-249</link>
		<author>Narendra</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.BattleAgainstAnyGuess.com/2008/03/avoiding-guesswork-in-complex-environments/#comment-249</guid>
		<description>Alex,

Nice thoughts.
I agree completely.
Your last reason is very important. People, many times, do not share knowledge, due to insecurity. Sounds funny, but it is a fact. They (probably) get "married" to the company and whenever they are acknowledged as S.P.O.C. (Single Point-Of-Contact), it soothes their ego.
Such people will do everything they can, to sabotage any plans to prepare / update documents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>
<p>Nice thoughts.<br />
I agree completely.<br />
Your last reason is very important. People, many times, do not share knowledge, due to insecurity. Sounds funny, but it is a fact. They (probably) get &#8220;married&#8221; to the company and whenever they are acknowledged as S.P.O.C. (Single Point-Of-Contact), it soothes their ego.<br />
Such people will do everything they can, to sabotage any plans to prepare / update documents.</p>
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