| Joined on | Name / WebSite |
Party Role | Why joined BAAG |
|---|---|---|---|
| 16-Jun-07 | Alex Gorbachev http://www.pythian.com | BAAG Admin | I founded BAAG as I'm tired of seeing people trying to solve problems applying the guesswork principles. Worse yet, sometimes I catch myself doing the same unintentionally. I feel that society needs to be more educated about consequences of guessing. We need to spread the knowledge and bring the discipline into masses. |
| 20-Jun-07 | Anjo Kolk http://www.oraperf.com | BAAG Member | I see many guesses that are wrong :) |
| 21-Jun-07 | Nuno Souto http://dbasrus.blogspot.com | BAAG Member | Sick and tired of seeing and hearing folks licking a finger and raising it up in the air to try and solve real life problems! |
| 21-Jun-07 | Martin Chadderton http://www.oratechinfo.co.uk | BAAG Member | This seems like a great way of combatting the constant "let's do this because it's worked at previous sites and might make a difference here". No analysis at all about what the problem might be. |
| 21-Jun-07 | Marco Gralike http://blog.gralike.com | BAAG Member | Striving for perfection (despite I am dba / human) is always a good thing (especially when one enjoins it ;-). So, sign me up ! |
| 21-Jun-07 | Carel-Jan Engel http:// | BAAG Member | It could work out, maybe, or not. We can keep the BAAA (Battle Against All Attempts) as an alternative if this doen't work. |
| 21-Jun-07 | Niall Litchfield http://www.orawin.info/services | BAAG Author | Guesswork is the bane of professional troubleshooters. It is probably the most pernicious error in IT today, worse when it works - because it instills a false confidence in the solution and solver - than when it fails |
| 21-Jun-07 | Andrew Clarke http://radiofreetooting.blogspot.com | BAAG Member | I don't know why I'm joining. I guess I'm hoping it's a Twelve Step programme... |
| 21-Jun-07 | Dominic Delmolino http://www.oraclemusings.com/ | BAAG Member | "No one answers my guesses... MAYBE I NEED TO GUESS LOUDER?" :-) |
| 21-Jun-07 | Paul Vallee http://www.pythian.com | BAAG Member | I have an idea. I won't tell you why I joined BAAG. And you can just guess. So guess away! But you can't ask whether you were right or not, you have to guess about that too. OK? |
| 21-Jun-07 | Herod Thogreit http://yaodba.blogspot.com | BAAG Member | thought the bandwagon was passing me by so jumped aboard ;) |
| 21-Jun-07 | Alex Fatkulin http://www.pythian.com/blogs/author/alexf/ | BAAG Member | There should be a brother to BAAG. How about BASB - Battle Against Silver Bullets? |
| 21-Jun-07 | Augusto Bott http:// | BAAG Member | Challenge is what drives us. Foreseeing the future is a must. Before this future arrive, we gotta plan for it. When planning, never guess. This 'future' will eventually arrive, and you'd better have your good plans executed. |
| 21-Jun-07 | Darrin Leboeuf http://www.pythian.com | BAAG Member | I believe that intuition IS something for the toolbox... :) |
| 21-Jun-07 | Edgar Chupit http:// | BAAG Member | |
| 21-Jun-07 | Gints Plivna http://www.gplivna.eu | BAAG Member | Although at least Alex should know that Russian phrase "zadom chujet" sometimes can work wonders ;) I'm joining this group because I've seen many cases when without exact calculation of the REAL reason problem won't be solved. |
| 22-Jun-07 | Peter K http://pkhosblog.blogspot.com | BAAG Member | I am playing "Following the Leader"...Tired of "silver bullets" guesses..."Hey, I set this undocumented feature "_fast" to "TRUE" in my last consulting gig and everything went faster. We should do the same here to resolve your slow-performance application." |
| 22-Jun-07 | Giridhar Kodakalla http:// | BAAG Member | I am interested in knowing more about oracle performance tuning without any guesses :) |
| 22-Jun-07 | Pete Finnigan http://www.petefinnigan.com | BAAG Member | I don't like guesswork, i prefer calculated investigation backed up by a response that is planned and sure to succeed |
| 22-Jun-07 | Jacco Landlust http://www.ikkanalles.nl | BAAG Member | My guess is as good as yours, but that's not why your calling me for help, is it now? |
| 22-Jun-07 | bill thater http:// | BAAG Member | because i can |
| 23-Jun-07 | Simon Haslam http://simonhaslam.co.uk | BAAG Contributor | In the 'old days' people often guessed because they didn't have easy access to the manuals. When was the last time you couldn't find the documentation online (Oracle, Cisco, your washing machine...)? There's no excuse for not doing your research now! |
| 23-Jun-07 | Syed Jaffar Hussain http://jaffardba.blogspot.com | BAAG Member | Alex idea seems to be a nice one and also looks challenging. |
| 24-Jun-07 | Christian Antognini http://www.trivadis.com | BAAG Member | I guess this is the right thing to do :-) (Every reference to Spike Lee's "Do The Right Thing" is not casual.) |
| 24-Jun-07 | Daniel Fink http://www.optimaldba.com | BAAG Member | To paraphrase Dave Ensor (at the recent Miracle Scotland DB Forum): "Winners know why they win." |
| 25-Jun-07 | coskan gundogar http://coskan.wordpress.com | BAAG Member | According to me nothing on the internet is worthy without proof. |
| 26-Jun-07 | Katrin Tödt http:// | BAAG Member | At last I am a member... and now I know for sure it is not only me who is battling! |
| 27-Jun-07 | Dave Kragness http:// | BAAG Member | because I just HATE people making guesses as to why a problem is occurring and then when they finally check with me, they are not even in the same universe as the problem! |
| 27-Jun-07 | zach friese http:// | BAAG Member | I try to think... but nothing happens! |
| 27-Jun-07 | David Kurtz http://www.go-faster.co.uk | BAAG Member | Say, rather, [we are coming] into the region where we balance probabilities and choose the most likely. It is the scientific use of the imagination, but we have always some material basis on which to start our speculation. |
| 28-Jun-07 | Bob Maggio http:// | BAAG Member | Because I spend much of my time trying to take a methodical, applied and usually simple approach to a Magic Bullet searching world. Each case presents new challenges...and FUN! |
| 28-Jun-07 | John Hurley http:// | BAAG Member | I guess I just like the concept. No that's not right I feel like I need to swear of guessing maybe this is the first step of a 12 step program. |
| 29-Jun-07 | Prashanth Jagannath http:// | BAAG Member | The abbreviation of BAAG (battleagainstanyguess) says it all :) |
| 1-Jul-07 | Stephen Booth http://stephensorablog.blogspot.com/ | BAAG Member | I dislike guessing |
| 1-Jul-07 | John Kanagaraj http:// | BAAG Member | I wanna add to the list of parties I belong to. The other party is BAARF, and some of the members of this party are members of BAARF too. Proud Member #18 of the BAARF party :) |
| 1-Jul-07 | Wolfgang Breitling http://www.centrexcc.com | BAAG Member | |
| 1-Jul-07 | Luis Fernando Cerri http://www.inmetrics.com.br | BAAG Member | I've been working on Information Technology performance problems for the last 5 years. In this time, I've never seen guesswork find the root-cause of a problem. Experience showed me that diagnosis is faster, cheaper and much more efficient than guessing. Another important point: when you diagnosis, you know what is offending and how it offends. So, you can also estimate the gain of eliminating any of the offenders, establish the gain-effort correlation and focus where you get fast results. |
| 1-Jul-07 | Chandra Pabba http:// | BAAG Member | To gain better understanding of realistic tuning and troubleshooting efforts,instead of the traditional guesswork. |
| 2-Jul-07 | Estifan Panosian http:// | BAAG Member | I would like to use any available tools to diagnose the issue instead of guess and guess and.... |
| 2-Jul-07 | Norman Dunbar http:// | BAAG Member | Because I read Alex thread entitled "Battle Against Any Guess" this very morning and found myself nodding in agreement all the way through. Now, if only I can put into practice .... |
| 2-Jul-07 | Tony van Esch http:// | BAAG Member | Professionals don't use guesswork, only fact. Guesswork will lead to 'substandard' solutions. |
| 2-Jul-07 | Kevin Taufner http://www.sentry.com | BAAG Member | Surprisingly, no matter how skilled it seems you get, the basics can sometimes slip through the years of experience. This is a basic tenet which should be drilled into every professional's head... regardless of skill or background. |
| 2-Jul-07 | Sol Beach http:// | BAAG Member | Get away from Ready, Fire, Aim! |
| 3-Jul-07 | Charles Schultz http://orajourn.blogspot.com | BAAG Member | To quote, "Why guess when you can know". |
| 4-Jul-07 | Christian Graversen http://www.linkedin.com/in/cgraversen | BAAG Member | I work as a Business Relationship Manager at DSB. My passion is to get a better understanding of how IT can support and improve business. One way to do that is to make IT more accountable and professional. To me The BAAG Party is one way to achieve this. |
| 5-Jul-07 | Frits Hoogland http://frits.homelinux.com/wordpress/ | BAAG Member | Typically, resolving problems requires to stop the already onsite engineers, and go step by step through all the layers and modules, which gets to the problem. |
| 5-Jul-07 | Duncan Lawie http://www.hoopoes.com | BAAG Member | Clues fit together so much better when you aren't just guessing for a solution, |
| 5-Jul-07 | Bas Stavenuiter http://phat4oracle.wordpress.com/ | BAAG Member | In my native language we have I saying which can be translated to something like "To measure is to know". |
| 7-Jul-07 | August Spier http:// | BAAG Member | Because if I can't have talent, good looks, or winning personality, I'd damn well better be right |
| 9-Jul-07 | Andrey KRIUSHIN http://www.rdtex.ru | BAAG Member | I fill (Gints Plivna probably knows what I mean ;-)) that there is something irrational in guessing. |
| 13-Jul-07 | Matt Turner http:// | BAAG Member | To join in the battle against the guess, and promote the rise of the methodologies. |
| 17-Jul-07 | Gary Myers http://igor-db.blogspot.com/ | BAAG Member | You can test a hypothesis. A guess is just a guess. |
| 17-Jul-07 | Philip Clark http:// | BAAG Member | Interested in Oracle performance analysis. www.StatspackAnalyzer.com |
| 17-Jul-07 | Jeremiah Wilton http://www.ora-600.net | BAAG Member | If you interview ten DBA candidates, five will outline the guessing method when describing how they do their job. Four will outline the the "Try a Bunch of Stuff" (TABOS) method, which is a close relative of the guessing method. TABOS is actually worse than guessing, since what you try is not necessarily anything that in your experience it is likely to be the cause of any kind of problem. It is on the list of things to try that you read/heard once, so you try it. Only one candidate is likely to mention "wait events" at all. If ou are lucky. |
| 18-Jul-07 | Fuad Arshad http://fuadarshad.blogspot.com | BAAG Member | I do agree guessing should be eliminated and fact should be analyzed |
| 19-Jul-07 | John Dixon http://www.dicka.net | BAAG Member | hmmm...let me guess.. |
| 23-Jul-07 | Peter Gram http:// | BAAG Member | I have for years advocated for : that all dba's should have the Oracle manual on any workstation/PC to stop them waisting time on guessing. |
| 24-Jul-07 | Jakob Hammer-Jakobsen http:// | BAAG Member | don't waste time |
| 26-Jul-07 | Peter McLarty http://www.pameacs.com | BAAG Member | I want to have better guesses |
| 27-Jul-07 | Saibabu Devabhaktuni http://sai-oracle.blogspot.oracle.com | BAAG Member | All the scientific & technological developments human beings achieved so far were based on big guesses to start with, followed by experiments to prove (or disprove) it, and finally make it reproducible by arriving at the methodologies. It is that final phase of Oracle methodologies, i am most interested in. |
| 27-Jul-07 | Paul Bennett http:// | BAAG Member | An untested guess is a dangerous thing. |
| 30-Jul-07 | Mark Bobak http:// | BAAG Member | I'm joining BAAG because I've seen way too many people answer questions with guesses and opinions, when often, it's simple and straightforward to test and prove the correct solution to a problem or question. |
| 30-Jul-07 | Aman Sharma http://www.aristadba.com | BAAG Member | (1)I am not so patient to wait for guesses to be applied and tested and then again applied and tested and it goes on. (2) There is always an answer to every why in Oracle,documented or undocumented, and I like to learn to give answers instead of guesses. |
| 30-Jul-07 | E. V. http://www.perfop42.com | BAAG Member | I'm guessing it will be a fun group to join. |
| 1-Aug-07 | soumabha ray http:// | BAAG Member | To enhance my knowledge , get some cool ideas |
| 1-Aug-07 | Joel Patterson http:// | BAAG Member | DBA about a dozen years. |
| 2-Aug-07 | Jared Still http:// | BAAG Member | It's a natural as a member of BAARF. |
| 9-Aug-07 | Robbert Wolters http:// | BAAG Member | I've had experience with ppl asking too many questions without bothering to consult the appropriate manual. RTFM first I say! |
| 13-Aug-07 | Asif Momen http://momendba.blogspot.com | BAAG Member | I hold OCP 10g Database and OCP 9i Forms Developer certifications. I have a total of 9 years experience in Oracle database and developer suite. |
| 14-Aug-07 | ellis miller http:// | BAAG Member | Ayn Rand channeled. |
| 14-Aug-07 | Tracy Grygiel http:// | BAAG Member | Looks groovy |
| 20-Aug-07 | lisia misinale http:// | BAAG Member | cause i want to |
| 20-Aug-07 | Raji Ramachandran http:// | BAAG Member | Sounds interesting |
| 27-Aug-07 | Dan Norris http://www.dannorris.com/ | BAAG Member | When I stopped guessing, I lost 35 pounds and saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, so it just made sense to join! |
| 27-Aug-07 | Kathy Duret http:// | BAAG Member | Because it is |
| 27-Aug-07 | Mark Brady http:// | BAAG Member | Because my current workplace is the Mothership of *Diagnosers of Oracle via Guesswork* (DOGs). As the only sentinel of reason and sanity, I've been ostracized from the pack. |
| 28-Sep-07 | Frank Pettinato http://www.geekdad-dba.blogspot.com/ | BAAG Member | Why not? If you are already a member of BAARF, this logically follows. |
| 4-Oct-07 | Morgan Wigge http://www.wigge.nu | BAAG Member | because i like to know ;-) |
| 12-Oct-07 | Paul Drake http://www.bikejournal.com | BAAG Member | Reading through trace files is more satisfying than using the magic 8 ball. |
| 6-Nov-07 | Vladimir Sadilovskiy http:// | BAAG Member | Why? Maybe just to add an alternative point of view. Guesswork is a part of the evolution and a workhorse of discoveries. Guesswork is finding an answer almost subconsciously. Making that answer the ultimate *truth* is one of the enemy in BAAG. |
| 4-Dec-07 | Eric Grancher http:// | BAAG Member | Strangely some people with a scientific background tend to act in very un-scientific way for some of their behaviour, looking for performance included! |
| 11-Dec-07 | robyn sands http:// | BAAG Member | because knowledge beats black magic any day |
| 13-Dec-07 | mobeen pardes http:// | BAAG Member | I wan to work and help people all over the world |
| 17-Dec-07 | Vikram Singh http://drdatabase.wordpress.com | BAAG Member | I strongly believe against guessing and only reasonable/scientific approach to an issue will lead towards light |
| 17-Dec-07 | Michael Thomas http:// | BAAG Member | Joining because I do not guess this is a good thing. Err... |
| 19-Jan-08 | Ken Carlton http:// | BAAG Member | Software is not magic, it does what its told to do. If its not working, find out what you are incorrectly telling it to do, don't guess. |
| 17-Feb-08 | Dion Cho http://ukja.tistory.com | BAAG Member | BAAG is technically cool |
| 18-Feb-08 | David Taft http:// | BAAG Member | Guessing hurts my brain. Ouch! There I go again. In all seriousness though, I know I can't make an informed decision about what I DON'T know. Careful analysis takes more up-front time and effort on my part, but it makes me a better DBA. |
| 19-Feb-08 | Paul Baumgartel http:// | BAAG Member | It took me a while, but I'm honored to be in the company of so many distinguished members, and I subscribe completely to BAAG's purpose. |
| 26-Feb-08 | Saad Khan http:// | BAAG Member | Oracle DBA involved in so many problem resolving issues. I had a habit to guess, but now I want to get away from it. |
| 6-Mar-08 | David Crowson http://www.ombomb.com/ | BAAG Member | 25 yrs+ freelance Oracle DBA and technical hitman... Guessing is not an option..... |
| 8-Mar-08 | Riyaj Shamsudeen http:// | BAAG Member | I hate guess work. |
| 13-Mar-08 | Cristian Cudizio http://cristiancudizio.freehostia.com | BAAG Member | i found your posts very interesting. I'm a sort of fun Oracle and performance tuning, in some ways i think your battle is right and it has to be our battle. I want to learn more about it. |
| 26-Mar-08 | Doug Burns http://oracledoug.com | BAAG Author | Because the BAAG CEO told me to! Only kidding ... because guessing is a disease that's difficult to rid yourself of, never mind anyone else. |
| 26-Mar-08 | H.Tonguç Y?lmaz http://tonguc.wordpress.com | BAAG Member | I hate "Question Authorities". Don’t buy any "guru’s" word easily, test it with your own case and make sure you are convinced of the results. |
| 9-Apr-08 | Kenneth Naim http:// | BAAG Member | Just last week, we had a conference call on performance issues in a product that is going live soon and after an hour and a half of random guesses instead of researching the issues. i just lost it and posed the guess that aliens kidnapped our server and replaced it with a commadore 64 |
| 29-Apr-08 | Dariusz Pola?ski http://dap.polanski.biz | BAAG Member | beacuse present is determined by future, not past |
| 12-Jul-08 | Bjørn Dörr Jensen http://www.bdjensen.net | BAAG Member | because this is the right way... |
| 17-Jul-08 | Karl Arao http://karlarao.wordpress.com | BAAG Member | Because i want facts, numbers, and figures.. |
| 28-Jul-08 | Mladen Gogala http://mgogala.freehostia.com | BAAG Member | I guess, therefore I am. I want to learn how to guess better. |
| 15-Aug-08 | Michael Garfield Sørensen http://www.CeDeT.dk | BAAG Member | I just spent over a week guessing that "it" was not an Oracle-bug, when in fact "it" was... (time for a change)! |
| 20-Aug-08 | Eric Evans http://www.hotsos.com | BAAG Member | I am on a non-stop crusade to wipe out guess work for performance optimization. I have practiced Method R now for a number of years and have not seen it fail me yet. I hate having meetings on how to solve performance problems using antidotal evidence (Hey, didn't Jim re-create all his indexes and got better performance? Why don't we do that here and see if it helps?). Please let me join in your Reindeer games. |
| 7-Sep-08 | Mohammad Illiyaz http:// | BAAG Member | Because i also want to BATTLE AGAINST ANY GUESSES |
| 22-Sep-08 | Ken Jordan http:// | BAAG Member | Seeking THE truth! |
| 27-Sep-08 | Martin Berger http://berx.at | BAAG Member | I travel on a sea of wild guesses, with some islands of educated guesses. Knowledge is the stars which help me traveling on these seas. I need more light! |
| 22-Nov-08 | Daniel Morgan http://www.morganslibrary.org | BAAG Member | Too often a conclusion is simply the place where someone became tired of thinking: Then the "answer" becomes a guess, a prejudice, or a retreat to mythology. I prefer the application of synapses. |
| 11-Feb-09 | Fairlie Rego http://www.el-caro.blogspot.com | BAAG Member | becoz I have had enuff |
| 3-Mar-09 | Olivier NOEL http:// | BAAG Member | Help me in my daily struggle against Oracle |
| 16-Mar-09 | Michael Erwin http://www.oracle.com/consulting/technology/grid-computing.html | BAAG Member | I like sharing what I know as actual fact vs. guessing as well. |
| 18-Mar-09 | Randolf Geist http://oracle-randolf.blogspot.com/ | BAAG Member | I guess (!) it's time to join. |
| 1-Apr-09 | Kevin Fries http:// | BAAG Member | I guess it cannot make things worse, I've tried everything else and the Magic 8-Ball broke. |
| 13-Apr-09 | Henrik Harsfort http:// | BAAG Member | to guess is to not know. |
| 24-Apr-09 | Paul Clare http:// | BAAG Member | Creative problem solving is evolving into an art form. |
| 15-May-09 | Robin East http://robineast.wordpress.com | BAAG Member | I spend my whole career BAAG. It's nice to know there are so many other people with the same viewpoint. |
| 22-Jun-09 | Jackie Brock http:// | BAAG Member | I'm always on the lookout for ways to improve my Oracle knowledge. |
| 26-Jun-09 | Joseph Cross http:// | BAAG Member | Referred from RAC SIG Oracle DBA Current Assignment: Logical DBA Supporting GM Global Sales Service and Marketing (GSSM) databases. |
| 13-Jul-09 | Gary Colbran http://www.colbran.co.za | BAAG Member | In the course of learning more about oracle. |
| 20-Jul-09 | Jakub Wartak http://vnull.pcnet.com.pl/blog/ | BAAG Member | Because magic "8" ball run out of gasoline :) |
| 21-Jul-09 | Ashok Nahar http:// | BAAG Member | To Learn more on Oracle Wait Events |
| 29-Jul-09 | Ruslan Nadzey http:// | BAAG Member | I like the idea. Knowledge is power, and guesswork is just lack of knowledge. The more you know, the less you guess. |
| 11-Aug-09 | Sanjeev Mellacheruvu http:// | BAAG Member | To avoid guesswork and learn systematic approach to solve oracle performance issues |
| 6-Oct-09 | Amardeep Sidhu http://www.amardeepsidhu.com | BAAG Member | It is awesome to be able to "know" rather than guess ;) |
| 17-Nov-09 | Alexis Gil http://blog.gilgonzales.net | BAAG Member | I can relate... |
| 25-Nov-09 | Shakir Sadikali http://www.pythian.com | BAAG Member | I'm good at guessing, but not as good as when i don't. |
| 11-Dec-09 | Peter Stalder http://www.trivadis.com | BAAG Member | Several things can be done to understand a system. So, why guess, if you can know? |
| 23-Dec-09 | bas sundar http:// | BAAG Member | I would like to learn Oracle performance tuning.. |
| 24-Dec-09 | Anandkumar Mahishawadagi http:// | BAAG Member | As I am Oracle DBA wants to learn new stuffs and similarly I can also share my knowledge with other people. |
| 2-Jan-10 | Enrique Aviles http:// | BAAG Member | Support Alex's effort which makes complete sense to me. Why guess when you can know. |
| 19-Jan-10 | Mikhail Veramchuk http:// | BAAG Member | I read the book "Expert Oracle Practices" from Apress |
| 19-Jan-10 | sameer hakim http:// | BAAG Member | Gennick is my friend. |
| 19-Jan-10 | syed hakim http:// | BAAG Member | Why me ? |
| 28-Jan-10 | Kevin Fries http:// | BAAG Member | I'm a longtime admin on various systems (MVS, System 36 & 38, AS/400, Uniz, Linux and (sigh) Windows), databases (Oracle, DB2, Microslop SQueaL Server) and applications (SAP). |
| 29-Jan-10 | Layton Welborn http:// | BAAG Member | I'm constantly fighting against those who are "old school" and insist on starting from a broad list of things it could be other than the database (based on their experience with [enter ancient version number here]), then denying everything until the very end. ;) |
| 3-Feb-10 | Marcus Mönnig http:// | BAAG Member | Seen too much guessing and feel forced to guess due to information not supplied from time to time... |
| 3-Feb-10 | sunil mai http:// | BAAG Member | Add few more things to my library |
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